The first time I saw a muscle car in Ukraine

[peresvet24]

it was 69 Chevy Camaro SS

 

[69hemibeep]

I bet that stuck out of the crowd :yesnod:

 

[3BIRDS1X]

Yeah those turn up everywhere.

 

[Steve]

Nice....a commie camero

 

[roadrunnerh]

Nice....a commie camero

 

[moparchris]

Nice!!!

 

[4spd69RR]

I hate to tell you this but that camero is not a Muscle car!!! It is a Pony car! However,it is a nice Camero.

 

[69hemibeep]

I hate to tell you this but that camero is not a Muscle car!!! It is a Pony car! However,it is a nice Camero.

Quite true on the pony aspect, which brings up where the line in the sand gets fuzzy. Same camero with a 427 or a cuda with a hemi, muscle? Or a pony with a heck of big power plant. :groucho:

 

[gunnar]

Please tell me what is the definition of a pony car? Is it determined by wheelbase? Horsepower? Weight? I really don't know.

 

[69hemibeep]

Please tell me what is the definition of a pony car? Is it determined by wheelbase? Horsepower? Weight? I really don't know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car .............. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_car

 

[peresvet24]

Thank you guys!
I did not know before :brickwall:

 

[moparstuart]

i consider a pony car just a sub catagory . most of them are muscle cars .

 

[Basketcase]

me too

 

[4spd69RR]

Even though Camaro, Cuda, Challenger, Mustang has been considered muscle cars they fall into the Pony Car classification. The term Pony Car was started back in the mid 60's when ford introduced the Mustang. True Muscle cars are usually large bodied two door hardtop with large cubic inch engines. The reason Camaros, Cudas, Challengers, and Mustangs are called muscle cars is infact because of the large cubic size engine that are in them. So I have to recant my original posting, pony cars are considerd muscle cars but not under the true definitions. Here is a good link below with a chart and classification.

Muscle Car definition - A muscle car, by the strictest definition, is an intermediate sized, performance oriented model, powered by a large V8 engine, at an affordable price. Most of these models were based on "regular" production vehicles. These vehicles are generally not considered muscle cars, even when equipped with large V8s. If there was a high performance version available, it gets the credit, and not the vehicle that it was based on.

Pony Car definition - In addition to fullsize and intermediate muscle cars, a number of smaller vehicles started appearing on the automotive performance scene. These new "pony cars" and compact cars are generally considered muscle cars only if they have the top of the line performance engines and options.

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars ... tion.shtml

 

[Basketcase]

Muscle Car definition - A muscle car, by the strictest definition, is an intermediate sized, performance oriented model, powered by a large V8 engine, at an affordable price. Most of these models were based on "regular" production vehicles. These vehicles are generally not considered muscle cars, even when equipped with large V8s. If there was a high performance version available, it gets the credit, and not the vehicle that it was based on.

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boy that sounds fiamiliar............

 

[4spd69RR]

I have to agree with some of you on the Pony car issue. I have to say that there should be two strict classifications. I had a person with a Ford Pinto trying to suggest his car was a muscle car several years ago because he installed a 302 V8 in it.

 

[ACME A12]

I consider a Metropolitan with any kind of V8 installed to be Musclecar... :basketcase:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I think at the end of the day what was under the hood when the car left the factory determines the car's status. While a '70 Barracuda with a leaning tower of power is certainly a Pony Car it is most assuredly not a Musclecar. Same for traditional Musclecars after the emasculation by the EPA & Insurance Industry began. You can call a '74 RR w/ a 318 a Musclecar all day long, but I ain't buying it... :loco:

:cents:
ACME

 

[moparstuart]

I consider a Metropolitan with any kind of V8 installed to be Musclecar... :basketcase:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I think at the end of the day what was under the hood when the car left the factory determines the car's status. While a '70 Barracuda with a leaning tower of power is certainly a Pony Car it is most assuredly not a Musclecar. Same for traditional Musclecars after the emasculation by the EPA & Insurance Industry began. You can call a '74 RR w/ a 318 a Musclecar all day long, but I ain't buying it... :loco:

:cents:
ACME

what does a ford guy know anyway
:acme: :acme: :acme:

 

[ACME A12]

what does a ford guy know anyway
:acme: :acme: :acme:

I'm just a car guy that happens to like old (as in real - not Daimler Nazi or Fix-It-Again-Tony/Government Motors) MoPars and new Mustangs. Deal with it.

:jester: