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CIA Book Review

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CIA book review For the historical record...this is chilling.
As President George W. Bush's top speechwriter, Marc Thiessen was
provided
unique access to the CIA program used in interrogating top Al Qaeda
terrorists, including the mastermind of the 9/11 attack, Khalid Sheikh
Mohammad (KSM).
Now, his riveting new book, "Courting Disaster", How the CIA Kept America

Safe (Regnery), has been published.
Here is an excerpt from "Courting Disaster":
Just before dawn on March 1, 2003, two dozen heavily armed Pakistani
tactical assault forces move in and surround a safe house in Rawalpindi
....
A few hours earlier they had received a text message from an informant
inside the house. It read: "I am with KSM."
Bursting in, they find the disheveled mastermind of the 9/11 attacks,
Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed, in his bedroom. He is taken into custody. In the safe
house, they find a treasure trove of computers, documents, cell phones
and
other valuable "pocket litter."
Once in custody, KSM is defiant.. He refuses to answer questions,
informing
his captors that he will tell them everything when he gets to America and

sees his lawyer. But KSM is not taken to America to see a lawyer Instead
he
is taken to a secret CIA "black site" in an undisclosed location. Upon
arrival, KSM finds himself in the complete control of Americans. He does
not
know where he is, how long he will be there, or what his fate will be.
Despite his circumstances, KSM still refuses to talk. He spews contempt
at
his interrogators, telling them Americans are weak, lack resilience, and
are
unable to do what is necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding
in
their goals. He has trained to resist interrogation. When he is asked for

information about future attacks, he tells his questioners scornfully:
"Soon, you will know.
It becomes clear he will not reveal the information using traditional
interrogation techniques. So he undergoes a series of "enhanced
interrogation techniques" approved for use only on the most high-value
detainees. The techniques include waterboarding. His resistance is
described
by one senior American official as "superhuman." Eventually, however, the

techniques work, and KSM becomes cooperative-for reasons that will be
described later in this book. He begins telling his CIA de-briefers about

active al Qaeda plots to launch attacks against the United States and
other
Western targets. He holds classes for CIA officials, using a chalkboard
to
draw a picture of al Qaeda's operating structure, financing,
communications,
and logistics. He identifies al Qaeda travel routes and safe havens, and
helps intelligence officers make sense of documents and computer records
seized in terrorist raids. He identifies voices in intercepted telephone
calls, and helps officials understand the meaning of coded terrorist
communications. He provides information that helps our intelligence
community capture other high-ranking terrorists, KSM's questioning, and
that
of other captured terrorists, produces more than 6,000 intelligence
reports,
which are shared across the intelligence community, as well as with our
allies across the world.
In one of these reports, KSM describes in detail the revisions he made to

his failed 1994-1995 plan known as the "Bojinka plot" to blow up a dozen
airplanes carrying some 4,000 passengers over the Pacific Ocean . Years
later, an observant CIA officer notices the activities of a cell being
followed by British authorities appear to match KSM's description of his
plans for a Bojinka-style attack. In an operation that involves
unprecedented intelligence cooperation between our countries, British
officials proceed to unravel the plot. On the night of Aug.9, 2006 they
launch a series of raids in a northeast London suburb that lead to the
arrest of two dozen al Qaeda terrorist suspects. They find a USB
thumb-drive
in the pocket of one of the men with security details for Heathrow
airport,
and information on seven trans-Atlantic flights that were scheduled to
take
off within hours of each other:

* United Airlines Flight 931 to San Francisco departing at 2:15 p.m.;
* Air Canada Flight 849 to Toronto departing at 3:00 p.m.;
* Air Canada Flight 865 to Montreal departing at 3:15 p.m.;
* United Airlines Flight 959 to Chicago departing at 3:40 p.m.;
* United Airlines Flight 925 to Washington departing at 4:20 p.m.;
* American Airlines Flight 131 to New York departing at 4:35 p.m;
* American Airlines Flight 91 to Chicago departing at 4:50 p.m.
They seize bomb-making equipment and hydrogen peroxide to make liquid
explosives. And they find the chilling martyrdom videos the suicide
bombers
had prepared. Today, if you asked an average person on the street what
they
know about the 2006 airlines plot, most would not be able to tell you
much.
Few Americans are aware of the fact al Qaeda had planned to mark the
fifth
anniversary of 9/11 with an attack of similar scope and magnitude. And
still
fewer realize the terrorists' true intentions in this plot were uncovered

thanks to critical information obtained through the interrogation of the
man
who conceived it: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. This is only one of the many
attacks stopped with the help of the CIA interrogation program
established
by the Bush Administration in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks. Editor's Note: For other foiled terrorist plots, see page 9 of
"Courting Disaster."
In addition to helping break up these specific terrorist cells and plots,

CIA questioning provided our intelligence community with an unparalleled
body of information about al Qaeda Until the program was temporarily
suspended in 2006, intelligence officials say, well over half of the
information our government had about al Qaeda-how it operates, how it
moves
money, how it communicates, how it recruits operatives, how it picks
targets, how it plans and carries out attacks-came from the interrogation
of
terrorists in CIA custody. Former CIA Director George Tenet has declared:
"I
know this program has saved lives. I know we've disrupted plots. I know
this
program alone is worth more than what the FBI, the Central Intelligence
Agency, and the National Security Agency put together have been able to
tell
us."
Former CIA Director Mike Hayden has said: "The facts of the case are that

the use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. It
really did work." Even Barack Obama's Director of National Intelligence,
Dennis Blair, has acknowledged: "High-value information came from
interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper
understanding of the al Qaeda organization that was attacking this
country."
Leon Panetta, Obama's CIA Director, has said: "Important information was
gathered from these detainees. It provided information that was acted
upon."
And John Brennan, Obama's Homeland Security Advisor, when asked in an
interview if enhanced-interrogation techniques were necessary to keep
America safe, replied : "Would the U.S. be handicapped if the CIA was
not,
in fact, able to carry out these types of detention and debriefing
activities? I would say yes."
On Jan. 22, 2009, President Obama issued Executive Order 13491, closing
the
CIA program and directing that, henceforth, all interrogations by U.S
personnel must follow the techniques contained in the Army Field Manual.
The
morning of the announcement, Mike Hayden was still in his post as CIA
Director, He called White House Counsel Greg Craig and told him bluntly:
"You didn't ask, but this is the CIA officially nonconcurring". The
president went ahead anyway, overruling the objections of the agency.
A few months later, on April 16, 2009, President Obama ordered the
release
of four Justice Department memos that described in detail the techniques
used to interrogate KSM and other high-value terrorists. This time, not
just
Hayden (who was now retired) but five CIA directors -including Obama's
own
director, Leon Panetta -- objected. George Tenet called to urge against
the
memos' release. So did Porter Goss. So did John Deutch. Hayden says: "You

had CIA directors in a continuous unbroken stream to 1995 calling saying,

'Don't do this.'"
In addition to objections from the men who led the agency for a
collective
14 years, the President also heard objections from the agency's covert
field
operatives. A few weeks earlier, Panetta had arranged for the eight top
officials of the Clandestine Service to meet with the President. It was
highly unusual for these clandestine officers to visit the Oval Office,
and
they used the opportunity to warn the President that releasing the memos
would put agency operatives at risk. The President reportedly listened
respectfully-and then ignored their advice.
With these actions, Barack Obama arguably did more damage to America 's
national security in his first 100 days of office than any President in
American history. (But how many people know this???)
 

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While this is maddening as all hell, there are so many stories like this, and the other you posted Bob, I think that some people will grow insensitive to it and start tuning them out, that those opposed to this idiot are making up these stories to get rid of him. I don't like this guy, but I sometimes wonder what kind of effect these stories will have and if people will really believe them enough to elect his ass out of office.
 

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Roadcuda said:
While this is maddening as all hell, there are so many stories like this, and the other you posted Bob, I think that some people will grow insensitive to it and start tuning them out, that those opposed to this idiot are making up these stories to get rid of him. I don't like this guy, but I sometimes wonder what kind of effect these stories will have and if people will really believe them enough to elect his ass out of office.
Could be, but most Americans have short memories.
 

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69hemibeep said:
Roadcuda said:
While this is maddening as all hell, there are so many stories like this, and the other you posted Bob, I think that some people will grow insensitive to it and start tuning them out, that those opposed to this idiot are making up these stories to get rid of him. I don't like this guy, but I sometimes wonder what kind of effect these stories will have and if people will really believe them enough to elect his ass out of office.
Could be, but most Americans have short memories.
And that is even more of a problem. When it comes time to vote they only look at what just happened and not the whole picture! :brickwall:
 

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Roadcuda said:
69hemibeep said:
Roadcuda said:
While this is maddening as all hell, there are so many stories like this, and the other you posted Bob, I think that some people will grow insensitive to it and start tuning them out, that those opposed to this idiot are making up these stories to get rid of him. I don't like this guy, but I sometimes wonder what kind of effect these stories will have and if people will really believe them enough to elect his ass out of office.
Could be, but most Americans have short memories.
And that is even more of a problem. When it comes time to vote they only look at what just happened and not the whole picture! :brickwall:
x2 on this crap
 

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Quite a read, thanks for posting. I don't know if I want to fly on a commercial airline anymore after seeing this.
 

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As far as I am concerned, the US should use ANY and ALL available interrogation techniques to get information from these pieces of shit.

Obama is a perfect example of how liberals and their ideology get in the way of common sense.

This is a different world we live in. Terrorists don't give a damn about diplomacy. They only understand violence - that's what they deserve, and that's what they should receive.
 

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roadrunnerh said:
As far as I am concerned, the US should use ANY and ALL available interrogation techniques to get information from these pieces of shit.

Obama is a perfect example of how liberals and their ideology get in the way of common sense.

This is a different world we live in. Terrorists don't give a damn about diplomacy. They only understand violence - that's what they deserve, and that's what they should receive.
Harry, what are you really trying to say :lol:
 
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